Comments on: Old journalism versus new journalism http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/ A veteran journalist blogs about the new media revolution. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:48:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: EFC http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-87213 EFC Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:08:49 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-87213 <a href='#comment-11901'>@Chris Hutching</a> - So, you're countering Gina's points -- which are exaggerated for effect -- by counter-blanketing bloggers as unemployed bags of wind? Yes, some blogs are lengthy and unsophisticated but the more people experiment, the more they'll figure out what works. I know dozens of blogs that are amazingly well-researched and well-written, often by people who are proficient in the field that they're blogging about. Like -- Gina's blog, for instance.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('87213','EFC'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('87213','EFC','<a href=\'#comment-11901\'>@Chris Hutching<\/a> - So, you\'re countering Gina\'s points -- which are exaggerated for effect -- by counter-blanketing bloggers as unemployed bags of wind? \r\n\r\nYes, some blogs are lengthy and unsophisticated but the more people experiment, the more they\'ll figure out what works. I know dozens of blogs that are amazingly well-researched and well-written, often by people who are proficient in the field that they\'re blogging about. \r\n\r\nLike -- Gina\'s blog, for instance.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Chris Hutching – So, you’re countering Gina’s points — which are exaggerated for effect — by counter-blanketing bloggers as unemployed bags of wind?

Yes, some blogs are lengthy and unsophisticated but the more people experiment, the more they’ll figure out what works. I know dozens of blogs that are amazingly well-researched and well-written, often by people who are proficient in the field that they’re blogging about.

Like — Gina’s blog, for instance.

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]]> By: cosplay http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-37697 cosplay Mon, 02 Aug 2010 03:18:02 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-37697 All good ideas. Just wanted to add my 2 cents from the Print viewpoint. To be clear, Iā€™m neither a journalist nor involved in a newspaper. Iā€™m a semi-retired blogger who spent 30 years running a Print business and then a stint teaching in design school.
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]]> By: New Technology. Internet. Evolving Journalism? « My JoJo-urnalism http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-35946 New Technology. Internet. Evolving Journalism? « My JoJo-urnalism Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:08:58 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-35946 [...] to an article (source here) posted on a personal blog Save The Media, the author (Gina Chen) cited a video tweet by New York [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('35946','New Technology. Internet. Evolving Journalism? « My JoJo-urnalism'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('35946','New Technology. Internet. Evolving Journalism? « My JoJo-urnalism','[...] to an article (source here) posted on a personal blog Save The Media, the author (Gina Chen) cited a video tweet by New York [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] to an article (source here) posted on a personal blog Save The Media, the author (Gina Chen) cited a video tweet by New York [...]
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]]> By: hcl http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-24638 hcl Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:03:00 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-24638 Old journalism in comparison with new journalism more abruptly.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24638','hcl'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24638','hcl','Old journalism in comparison with new journalism more abruptly.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Old journalism in comparison with new journalism more abruptly.
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]]> By: Journalists and social media rules | Save the Media http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-24592 Journalists and social media rules | Save the Media Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:54:28 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-24592 [...] some interesting fodder in the comments. Her post reminds me of mine from a while back, comparing old journalism to new journalism. Let’s move onto the news, [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('24592','Journalists and social media rules | Save the Media'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('24592','Journalists and social media rules | Save the Media','[...] some interesting fodder in the comments. Her post reminds me of mine from a while back, comparing old journalism to new journalism. Let’s move onto the news, [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] some interesting fodder in the comments. Her post reminds me of mine from a while back, comparing old journalism to new journalism. Let’s move onto the news, [...]
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]]> By: Joe Moody http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-23334 Joe Moody Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:18:29 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-23334 Good point on the interactivity of new journalism, as a trained journalist who moved to the new media arena of the web back in 1996, I recently put together some ideas on my that will help the old media meet the demands on a younger, digitally-enhanced audience. My ideas are under the "New Journalism is Interactive" linked from my blog url above. With all the talk about public bailouts of old media etc., hope this can add something valuable to the discussion. happy blogging, looking forward to your future posts. Joe<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('23334','Joe Moody'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('23334','Joe Moody','Good point on the interactivity of new journalism, as a trained journalist who moved to the new media arena of the web back in 1996, I recently put together some ideas on my that will help the old media meet the demands on a younger, digitally-enhanced audience. My ideas are under the \"New Journalism is Interactive\" linked from my blog url above. With all the talk about public bailouts of old media etc., hope this can add something valuable to the discussion. happy blogging, looking forward to your future posts.\r\n\r\nJoe'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Good point on the interactivity of new journalism, as a trained journalist who moved to the new media arena of the web back in 1996, I recently put together some ideas on my that will help the old media meet the demands on a younger, digitally-enhanced audience. My ideas are under the “New Journalism is Interactive” linked from my blog url above. With all the talk about public bailouts of old media etc., hope this can add something valuable to the discussion. happy blogging, looking forward to your future posts.

Joe

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]]> By: bloggingmom67 http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11930 bloggingmom67 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:50:12 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-11930 <a href='#comment-11901'>@Chris Hutching</a> - Do see your point. My examples of "old journalism" aren't shining examples of good in any field. However, my point is new journalism needs to be more focused on the reader -- consumer centered. I don't believe old journalism really was because it didn't have to be; it was the only game in town. Sure, newspapers said they cared about the audience in the old days, but I don't think they took the time to really understand what the audience wants. And the audience in the pre-Internet era didn't have the power to pick and choose its news as it does today. Sure, it could cancel the newspaper subscription, but then what. My examples may be exaggerated to make a point. But I think the point is there: You can't ignore the reader anymore. -- Gina<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11930','bloggingmom67'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11930','bloggingmom67','<a href=\'#comment-11901\'>@Chris Hutching<\/a> - \r\n\r\nDo see your point. My examples of \"old journalism\" aren\'t shining examples of good in any field.\r\n\r\nHowever, my point is new journalism needs to be more focused on the reader -- consumer centered. I don\'t believe old journalism really was because it didn\'t have to be; it was the only game in town.\r\n\r\nSure, newspapers said they cared about the audience in the old days, but I don\'t think they took the time to really understand what the audience wants. And the audience in the pre-Internet era didn\'t have the power to pick and choose its news as it does today. Sure, it could cancel the newspaper subscription, but then what.\r\n\r\nMy examples may be exaggerated to make a point. But I think the point is there: You can\'t ignore the reader anymore.\r\n\r\n-- Gina'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Chris Hutching –

Do see your point. My examples of “old journalism” aren’t shining examples of good in any field.

However, my point is new journalism needs to be more focused on the reader — consumer centered. I don’t believe old journalism really was because it didn’t have to be; it was the only game in town.

Sure, newspapers said they cared about the audience in the old days, but I don’t think they took the time to really understand what the audience wants. And the audience in the pre-Internet era didn’t have the power to pick and choose its news as it does today. Sure, it could cancel the newspaper subscription, but then what.

My examples may be exaggerated to make a point. But I think the point is there: You can’t ignore the reader anymore.

– Gina

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]]> By: Chris Hutching http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11901 Chris Hutching Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:59:20 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-11901 These differences between "old journalism" and new blogging are fallacious. Any good journo/editor has always taken the views you ascribe to "new journalism". Your examples of "old journalism" are just plain laziness and lack of curiosity. The main trouble with bloggers is that many of appear to be unemployed or under employed and think that everyone else time to wade through their thousands of words. They also lack rigour in checking facts and are more like the diarists of old<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11901','Chris Hutching'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11901','Chris Hutching','These differences between \"old journalism\" and new blogging are fallacious. Any good journo\/editor has always taken the views you ascribe to \"new journalism\". Your examples of \"old journalism\" are just plain laziness and lack of curiosity.\r\nThe main trouble with bloggers is that many of appear to be unemployed or under employed and think that everyone else time to wade through their thousands of words. They also lack rigour in checking facts and are more like the diarists of old'); return false;">Quote</a></div> These differences between “old journalism” and new blogging are fallacious. Any good journo/editor has always taken the views you ascribe to “new journalism”. Your examples of “old journalism” are just plain laziness and lack of curiosity.
The main trouble with bloggers is that many of appear to be unemployed or under employed and think that everyone else time to wade through their thousands of words. They also lack rigour in checking facts and are more like the diarists of old
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]]> By: “Save the Media” Might Save You « One Man’s Band http://savethemedia.com/2009/03/21/old-journalism-versus-new-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1846 “Save the Media” Might Save You « One Man’s Band Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:52:42 +0000 http://savethemedia.com/?p=1034#comment-1846 [...] her most recent posts, an “old media” versus “new media” imaginary newsroom conversation [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1846','“Save the Media” Might Save You « One Man’s Band'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1846','“Save the Media” Might Save You « One Man’s Band','[...] her most recent posts, an “old media” versus “new media” imaginary newsroom conversation [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] her most recent posts, an “old media” versus “new media” imaginary newsroom conversation [...]
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